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No, Did not THROW THEM UNDER the bus. I stated how we build our bikes compared to the other bikes out there. Also, for your information, I just recently started my own manufacturing company without help from my father so that I can show my "stuff" without using his name and being able to build my own reputation. But no matter what I will always be his son and will have his name with me at all times. I don't think that is fair personally because his style is far different than mine but fact of the matter is, I am his son and he has made one hell of a name.

No, not all "chopper" riders are law abiding but I bet money there are way few of them out there doing wheelies and killing themselves and others like the people (majority of them being kids) out there on the crotch rockets doing such things.

I have had crotch rockets and I do ride them quite often with my friends, but we dont go out and act immature and endanger our lives or others.
 
no need for pm's
my name is Nazzy zaman.
you might have met me if you might have gone to:
a cmra race, a few ama races, or the texas mile instead of your local starbucks.
bikes I have owned that were:
ness custom 2008 street glide. there were a few made and sold..
exile streetfighter..the only one that was made that I know of.
MB rage. I was the original owner of the bike that franke muniz owns currently.
anything else? (you want me to show and name my current duc list, most that have some race history)
whats your name?

so are you saying that each frame you build is one off?
or just modified for each customer?
same with the engines?

explain how "one off" a custom paintjob makes a bike?

so let me guess. you raced a stock busa with your fat turd of a bike and called it a good race?
what type of a race was it? quarter mile? mile? wasnt a race with turns was it?
do you know how to take a turn?

only ones I ever see do burnouts are harleys and choppers...thats all they can do.

yes crotch rockets raise insurance...can your bikes even get insurance?

yes we go 125mph everywhere....can you bike even get to 125? (a stock zx10r does 100 in first gear lol)

what ECU are you running on your 149ci? what comp?

ps...lots of non turbo busas with larger pistons (easy to change, busa pistons sit in a "basket") are making 280whp plus.
the fact that the dyno you use not being able to handle 250whp plus..shows it all.

can your bike even brake faster than a school bus? I didnt see a single radial caliper. and saw that you use sprocket braking

ever heard of suspension? we are running nitrogen forks (ohlins fgr) and you guys are running conventional pirate leg looking forks. get with the program.

your wheels are nice...but come on now...we are running carbon wheels with ti hardware. must love the weight huh?

the point I am making is. choppers are antiques with nice paintjobs...plain and simple. no tech what so ever...looks nice from far..but the attention to detail and the tech factor are both jokes compared to a duc or even a new yamaha r1..a bike that costs only 12 grand.
hell we even have better fabricators than the chopper world who build race proven stuff...not starbuck sizzlers.

now lets be honest. all chopper owners want a crotch rocket but cant get on one because of their fat middle aged gut.

ya....a generalizations are a biatch dont ya think?

and quit comparing your choppers to a duc...as a duc owner. I am offended.
 
no need for pm's
my name is Nazzy zaman.
you might have met me if you might have gone to:
a cmra race, a few ama races, or the texas mile instead of your local starbucks.
bikes I have owned that were:
ness custom 2008 street glide. there were a few made and sold..
exile streetfighter..the only one that was made that I know of.
MB rage. I was the original owner of the bike that franke muniz owns currently.
anything else? (you want me to show and name my current duc list, most that have some race history)
whats your name?

Conrad Nicklus

so are you saying that each frame you build is one off?
or just modified for each customer?
same with the engines?

The One-Off bikes are all One-Off frames. No 2 alike in the entire World. The production bikes (7 models) have their own frame for each model of course. The engines in the Production bikes are 120, 127,131, and 140 ci billet engines.

explain how "one off" a custom paintjob makes a bike?
Its not about the paint, it is about the bike it self. The one-offs are, of course, one off..Not another one in the world like it.

so let me guess. you raced a stock busa with your fat turd of a bike and called it a good race?
what type of a race was it? quarter mile? mile? wasnt a race with turns was it?
do you know how to take a turn?

It was about a 1/2 mile in Northern Houston, slight curve but not a deep banking corner like you would want. It is a 1300 modified to a 1350?? or something around there but it is NA just like Retribution is. Yes, I do know how to take a turn.

only ones I ever see do burnouts are harleys and choppers...thats all they can do.

yes crotch rockets raise insurance...can your bikes even get insurance?
We can get insurance just like a Harley or a Yamaha can, we are a MANUFACTUER not a custom builder like 99% of the others.

yes we go 125mph everywhere....can you bike even get to 125? (a stock zx10r does 100 in first gear lol)

I have been past 170 on several occasions on bikes we have built. One of our customers/my dads good friend has several of our bikes and we built him one a few years back with a 131ci dual carbed bike. I took it past 180 just outside of Sturgis and could barely hangon past that point since I had never gone that fast. I came back shaking from adrenaline and my father had to take my helmet off.. It was a rush. So needless to say the bikes we build are meant to go fast, look good and handle well. Yes you can take corners, you cant drag your knee like you love to do of course but you can go through corners in the mountains, track (if you have balls) etc.

what ECU are you running on your 149ci? what comp?

14.1 compression. No "ECU" persay. Has a custom ignition system built in house and a custom built S&S race carb.

ps...lots of non turbo busas with larger pistons (easy to change, busa pistons sit in a "basket") are making 280whp plus.
the fact that the dyno you use not being able to handle 250whp plus..shows it all.
The dyno we use dynos 500+ hp prostock bikes. The Harley frame we tested the engine in is what didnt hold up.

can your bike even brake faster than a school bus? I didnt see a single radial caliper. and saw that you use sprocket braking

We use 4-6 piston brakes on the front (depends what model) and 4 piston brakes on the rear (not single like Exile, MBros etcetc etc) these bikes stop like a champ!

ever heard of suspension? we are running nitrogen forks (ohlins fgr) and you guys are running conventional pirate leg looking forks. get with the program.
We run Nitrogen on the rear shocks in most cases and in the inverted front forks.
your wheels are nice...but come on now...we are running carbon wheels with ti hardware. must love the weight huh?
We also run some carbon wheels and even used a few carbon fiber frames from Revolution for some customers in Italy who love to track. But those are special order only, like one-offs.

the point I am making is. choppers are antiques with nice paintjobs...plain and simple. no tech what so ever...looks nice from far..but the attention to detail and the tech factor are both jokes compared to a duc or even a new yamaha r1..a bike that costs only 12 grand.
Go look at some of the engineering we use.. We dont just bolt parts together and put a nice slick paintjob. I personally love all black paint bikes with a lot of power and handling. The current owner of Retribution has currently been showing the bike all over the country and has won 1st in every show except 1 where he came in 2nd (Pamona Roadster show) Oh and when I SAY 1st place, he has won the entire show....cars, trucks, bikes etc.
hell we even have better fabricators than the chopper world who build race proven stuff...not starbuck sizzlers.

now lets be honest. all chopper owners want a crotch rocket but cant get on one because of their fat middle aged gut.

ya....a generalizations are a biatch dont ya think?

and quit comparing your choppers to a duc...as a duc owner. I am offended.
Q&A for you above
 
so I take it your dad is jeff?
jeff owns desparado? (or did i read it wrong?)
I am in the houston area as well. If you want to get your bells rung by a real bike or want to see a real bike let me know. (you all should attend the texas mile..and see some real bikes)
 
Q&A for you above
gotcha.

a stock busa that is 08 plus is 1349cc..so was it an older or newer busa?

I really wanna see a 131ci chopper go 180 (I might even slow down to 180mph lol). what is the gearing? whp?
who makes your own front gas charged forks? (i only know of two companies in the world who makes gas charged forks. traxxion and ohlins)

how long does your 14:1 comp engine run before a rebuild?

where in northern houston was this race?



which cf wheels did you guys run?

so you have 6 piston brakes in front on one side? how much do these bikes weigh?

I understand that you are a manuf but it is still harder to get insurance on a chopper than a crotch rocket. 99% of the ins companies wont insure a chopper.

nobody really cares about showbikes...get on them and ride...thats what bikes are made for...not to sit on a pedestal and be judged.
now I see why you dont like sportbikes...one rides em..and one show em...guess who is who.
 
a stock busa that is 08 plus is 1349cc..so was it an older or newer busa? 2003 I believe????

I really wanna see a 131ci chopper go 180 (I might even slow down to 180mph lol). what is the gearing? whp? Cannot comment on Gearing.. HP is about 180
who makes your own front gas charged forks? (i only know of two companies in the world who makes gas charged forks. traxxion and ohlins)
American Suspensions Carbonfiber
how long does your 14:1 comp engine run before a rebuild?

That is a good question, how long does your ducati engine run before a rebuild? It all depends on how you treat it.

where in northern houston was this race?
West of The Woodlands


which cf wheels did you guys run?

Revolution.. Same as on the Exile Streetfighters except made for the bike not just basic 160 or 180 mm tires

so you have 6 piston brakes in front on one side? how much do these bikes weigh?
On average 500 pounds. I had built a few "Street Screamers" when I was in high-school that were sport bike designed but had a 150 hp vtwin, carbon fiber body, Marchini (spelling??) wheels, Paoli (spelling) front end, Ohlins stabilizer bar. etc. This is something you would love if you had one of the StreetFighters Russ built.

I understand that you are a manuf but it is still harder to get insurance on a chopper than a crotch rocket. 99% of the ins companies wont insure a chopper.
All you have to do is call Progressive and they will insure these bikes in a heartbeat.

nobody really cares about showbikes...get on them and ride...thats what bikes are made for...not to sit on a pedestal and be judged.
now I see why you dont like sportbikes...one rides em..and one show em...guess who is who.[/QUOTE]
We only build 3-12 custom bikes a year. the others 300 built are Production bikes
 
Oh and all of our One-off bikes are ridden by the owners on the regular. We have an owner who has, I believe, 9 of our bikes 5 of which are one-offs. He rides them all, he is also the owner of the bike listed above, Retribution.
 
2003 I believe????

it makes about 160 at the wheels.

Cannot comment on Gearing.. HP is about 180.

180 at the wheels? thats it? my 1098r makes that for example. and it takes it forever to get to 180. I am pretty sure it is also hella lighter than a chopper. that must have been a long road you were on.

who makes your own front gas charged forks? (i only know of two companies in the world who makes gas charged forks. traxxion and ohlins)
American Suspensions Carbonfiber
how long does your 14:1 comp engine run before a rebuild?

That is a good question, how long does your ducati engine run before a rebuild? It all depends on how you treat it.

the duc engines does not have 14:1 compression (even my corsa and sp ones). thats why I ask. all my 14:1 cr or over engines need rebuild after each race weekend...and dont run on anything but vp m8-1 fuel. so you pretty much build hand grenade engines for the road. nice. plus well mines a ducati..its like a ferrari...yours is like a modded chevy duramax. :D
I looked into american suspension. they dont have any carbonfiber susp stuff...must be special made for you guys. got a pic?



West of The Woodlands
where are you guys located?

Revolution.. Same as on the Exile Streetfighters except made for the bike not just basic 160 or 180 mm tires

my exile did not have revo wheels. had pvm as the revolution wheels tended to fail under high performance. so russ got me a killer deal on some black pvms. only carbon wheels that I trust are dymag and bst...bst being the best carbon bike wheel there is (tested at 229mph at the texas mile by me).

On average 500 pounds. I had built a few "Street Screamers" when I was in high-school that were sport bike designed but had a 150 hp vtwin, carbon fiber body, Marchini (spelling??) wheels, Paoli (spelling) front end, Ohlins stabilizer bar. etc. This is something you would love if you had one of the StreetFighters Russ built.

500lbs wet or dry? I hated my exile. performance per $ was severely lacking and it had a horrible ride to boot.
what frame did you use for the 500lb bikes. because I can guess that none of the bikes that you posted weigh under 600lbs. what is the frame made of?


All you have to do is call Progressive and they will insure these bikes in a heartbeat.

I just did. they carry ins on desparado but not JN bikes. might just be my agent though
 
it makes about 160 at the wheels.

Cannot comment on Gearing.. HP is about 180.

180 at the wheels? thats it? my 1098r makes that for example. and it takes it forever to get to 180. I am pretty sure it is also hella lighter than a chopper. that must have been a long road you were on.

Torque was the scary part, had no issue getting there which was the worst part. Like I said, I had never gone that fast on a bike especially as fast as it got there.


the duc engines does not have 14:1 compression (even my corsa and sp ones). thats why I ask. all my 14:1 cr or over engines need rebuild after each race weekend...and dont run on anything but vp m8-1 fuel. so you pretty much build hand grenade engines for the road. nice. plus well mines a ducati..its like a ferrari...yours is like a modded chevy duramax. :D
I looked into american suspension. they dont have any carbonfiber susp stuff...must be special made for you guys. got a pic?


AS makes the Carbon Fiber fronts by order. Look up the "McBike" that my father donated to Ronald McDonald House Charities. We used the Carbon on that bike. Great product and a very nice front end.

We mixed c10 and Premium fuel when we fired the bike up. Filled the tank half and half.. Dyno was done on Premium only, as for a rebuild this is not like an all out drag engine or race engine. It is built to be ridden, its just a little "bitch" to start if you dont do it exactly right.


where are you guys located?

The Woodlands



my exile did not have revo wheels. had pvm as the revolution wheels tended to fail under high performance. so russ got me a killer deal on some black pvms. only carbon wheels that I trust are dymag and bst...bst being the best carbon bike wheel there is (tested at 229mph at the texas mile by me).

I have never ever heard of any Revolution Carbon Fiber wheels having any issues what so ever. I will have to call and verify that.
Now, if you are talking about the Frames, they did have some issues at first but that was years ago and all that has been corrected.



500lbs wet or dry? I hated my exile. performance per $ was severely lacking and it had a horrible ride to boot.
what frame did you use for the 500lb bikes. because I can guess that none of the bikes that you posted weigh under 600lbs. what is the frame made of?


Well, you are one of the few that (I mean this with no offense) was dumb enough to pay 60k like Russ was asking for the StreetFighters. The bike doesnt even look comfortable or able to do what its built to do.
The bike with the 149ci (Retribution) weighed in just over 620 LBS.. But that frame is ridiculous and the rear wheels is 18" wide and the engine is quite large as well. but the production bikes (Rigids) come in starting at about 470 and go to 530 depending on options. Softails start at around 505 pounds and go upwards of 600, again, depending on what options and model.
Depending on which model/frame... Chromoly or steel with aluminum covers.

All you have to do is call Progressive and they will insure these bikes in a heartbeat.

I just did. they carry ins on desparado but not JN bikes. might just be my agent though[/QUOTE]

They will insure the JN bikes but some may not know of JN since only about 30 JNCs have been built thus far. I believe the VIN is 1J9... as Desperado is 1D9.
 
You may be the acceptation to the rule, but my point behind all of this is a majority of the crotch rocket riders on the street act like fools. I always see it when I ride or even when I drive, they fly by, split lanes, do all their little stunts etc. I never ever see the older or middle age Crotch Rocket riders doing all that crap but then again most "Jap" bike riders are young adults or teenagers. But like I said, you are the acceptation to that rule. Ducatis and such are badass bikes in my eyes but they are badass because they are not meant to be ridden around like R6s and R1s etc. They are meant for the track, they are meant to be going through corners at 140 mph
 
I personally hate all the Jap bikes and such..
Hey chopper guy. Do you realize, that you may be bitting the hands that feed you? A lot of guys that ride, "jap bikes" are going to get older, slower, fatter, balder and have a lot more disposable income. But, they are still going to want to ride a motorcycle. Some of them, may even want to but a chopper, but none of them are going to buy a chopper from a single minded person with an, I'm better then everyone else attitude, like you.
 
Hey chopper guy. Do you realize, that you may be bitting the hands that feed you? A lot of guys that ride, "jap bikes" are going to get older, slower, fatter, balder and have a lot more disposable income. But, they are still going to want to ride a motorcycle. Some of them, may even want to but a chopper, but none of them are going to buy a chopper from a single minded person with an, I'm better then everyone else attitude, like you.
No, not single minded or "I am better than everyone else" attitude. I have the mindset of "I know what I like and how the majority of the riders act on Vtwin bikes vs the "race" bikes"...

Also, I personally build about 10-14 bikes a year that customers come directly to me for because they understand that I build what I like and they want the bikes I build. I don't build the big fat tire bikes with long rake and such. I build the skinny tire, high-seat, narrow bikes that you CAN go through corners fast yet hit the Drag Strip and still go fast as well and this is what they come to me for. They don't look like a "Crotch Rocket" instead they look like a chopper or prostreet bike with a twist on it. Such as my first bike which was in the June 2005 Street Chopper Magazine. Chopper in looks but handles corners like a dream.
 
You may be the acceptation to the rule, but my point behind all of this is a majority of the crotch rocket riders on the street act like fools. I always see it when I ride or even when I drive, they fly by, split lanes, do all their little stunts etc. I never ever see the older or middle age Crotch Rocket riders doing all that crap but then again most "Jap" bike riders are young adults or teenagers. But like I said, you are the acceptation to that rule. Ducatis and such are badass bikes in my eyes but they are badass because they are not meant to be ridden around like R6s and R1s etc. They are meant for the track, they are meant to be going through corners at 140 mph
Oh no, chopper guys never act like fools. They just ride around in chopper and Harley gangs and rape, pillage and murder people, just for shits and giggles. For some reason, Hells Angels come to mind. Oh yea, they are a bunch of law abiding citizens. The kind of guys you just wish your daughter would bring home. Dude you are very delusional!
 
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