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Fiat selling Ferrari...to VW?

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Autoblog - Marchionne admits Fiat might sell Ferrari ahead of Merger.

To be honest, this confuses me. Ferrari and Lamborghini in the same company seems less than ideal. That said, VW isn't known for screwing up.

The question is what effect will Ferrari and Lamborghini have on each other?
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I dont see this happening anytime soon. Ferrari has been consistently profitable for Fiat. Not to mention that fiat would have to sell Maserati as well bc Maseratis are painted at the ferrari factory and use ferrari engines, designers, etc.
Wouldn't be any different than Rolls and Bentley getting split up like they did when you couldn't even tell the difference between the Corniche and the Azure.
TBH i bet Rolls fans were upset when bought by BMW but its been nothing but good for them in terms of the modernisation of Rolls Royce.

I cant see it being a bad move but Fiat must be in some kind of financial problems to sell ? Maybe if they did what alfa did and hire a BMW designer and engineers to make their post 159 cars actually work properly then they wouldnt have the reputation of "Fix It Again Today" (FIAT) and would actually sell cars.
I really have a hard time beleeving this one is going happen. FIAT is coming to the USA next year and there dollar is strong. If they are thinking about selling Ferrari they have some thing else up there sleeves.
not to mention that if the deal occurs, than fiat relinquishes the rights to not only the distribution on the cars, and the building process, but the parts contract as well, which is currently held my Marelli
OH NO !!! they mess up every thing and put there stupid DSG gearbox and ruin the car
Im sure everyone was saying the same things when VWAG acquired Lamborghini and look how horrible it has been. Its business and world will keep right on turning and Ferrari will keep right on making amazing sports cars.
I may just not be able to read, but I didn't see where it mentioned VW?
Yeah, this doesn't exactly seem feasible at the moment.
I don't see it happening.
Be clear we are not talking about Di'hatsu buying Yugo here....we are talking about the largest volume car company in the world acquiring the most prestigious marque in the business. IF that happens, and I think that is a mighty big IF, you can be sure there will be a lot things in place to maintain Ferrari's growth and development and therefore VW's new profitability. As much crap as has been talked, I have yet to see a negative in the development cycle of Lamborghini, or bugatti, or Bentley or anything else VW has control of. If they weren't good at it they would not be continuing with acquiring companies. Development money is where it is at and VW has more of it than anyone out there.
I may just not be able to read, but I didn't see where it mentioned VW?
If the IPO does happen, we have a good idea who will be first in line with a briefcase full of hundreds.
There ya go.
Be clear we are not talking about Di'hatsu buying Yugo here....we are talking about the largest volume car company in the world acquiring the most prestigious marque in the business. IF that happens, and I think that is a mighty big IF, you can be sure there will be a lot things in place to maintain Ferrari's growth and development and therefore VW's new profitability. As much crap as has been talked, I have yet to see a negative in the development cycle of Lamborghini, or bugatti, or Bentley or anything else VW has control of. If they weren't good at it they would not be continuing with acquiring companies. Development money is where it is at and VW has more of it than anyone out there.
Lamborghini has been terrible. They keep trying to basically upgrade their vehicles instead of replacing them for over the past decade. Bugatti keep making special editions and in turn dropping the value of these cars ten fold. I was offered a used bugatti veyron for 800k with only 300 miles!!! Sure the big parent company is mainly the ones keeping these guys afloat. If it was only Audi that was covering for lamborghini, these guys would have sold them off long ago
VW= World Domination.....
I guess it will be another reason why Ill Love VW and Help me in my JOB. I know we(chrysler/Fiat) are giving tons of money to plants all over midwest.
Lamborghini has been terrible. They keep trying to basically upgrade their vehicles instead of replacing them for over the past decade. Bugatti keep making special editions and in turn dropping the value of these cars ten fold. I was offered a used bugatti veyron for 800k with only 300 miles!!! Sure the big parent company is mainly the ones keeping these guys afloat. If it was only Audi that was covering for lamborghini, these guys would have sold them off long ago

I aree that lambo has not made a new car since the murcy and gallardo came out. I've been waiting to see what their new car/chassis will look like it and how successful it will be.
Ferrari would be diluted even further with larger production numbers, and bland designs. If it wasn't for Jim Glickenhaus' design work on the P4/5 the 458 Italia wouldn't have looked as nice. Ferrari didn't come up with it independently, they stole it from the P4/5.

Look at the quantities Ferrari is making now...a good case for saying they've already sold out.


Lamborghini has been terrible. They keep trying to basically upgrade their vehicles instead of replacing them for over the past decade. Bugatti keep making special editions and in turn dropping the value of these cars ten fold. I was offered a used bugatti veyron for 800k with only 300 miles!!! Sure the big parent company is mainly the ones keeping these guys afloat. If it was only Audi that was covering for lamborghini, these guys would have sold them off long ago
Lamborghini has been terrible. They keep trying to basically upgrade their vehicles instead of replacing them for over the past decade. Bugatti keep making special editions and in turn dropping the value of these cars ten fold. I was offered a used bugatti veyron for 800k with only 300 miles!!! Sure the big parent company is mainly the ones keeping these guys afloat. If it was only Audi that was covering for lamborghini, these guys would have sold them off long ago
+1000000
Ferrari would be diluted even further with larger production numbers, and bland designs. If it wasn't for Jim Glickenhaus' design work on the P4/5 the 458 Italia wouldn't have looked as nice. Ferrari didn't come up with it independently, they stole it from the P4/5.

Look at the quantities Ferrari is making now...a good case for saying they've already sold out.
Look at the main thought for the P4/5 they already had the capabilities of doing such a car to begin with. You think Ferrari really wants to blow cars out of the market. Sometimes Ferrari out do themselves on their cars and end up not being able to match that same mark the next production years. However you can not say they "stole" it from the P4/5. The 458 is more related to the F40 than most of the cars in its production line. Personally I do not like the P4/5, its not my cup of tea however i respect the man who decided to go on with the project and put the project into a full working car. If Ferrari really wanted to, they can strap a 2.4L V8 producing around 900 HP (basically taken out of one of their formula 1 cars but street homologated) and put it into a 430 with some extra Aero kits. But that would be the Widow maker of the century. It would also be one of the fastest road legal cars ever to be made. Ferrari has a capability that is none other, just as Mercedes and other car manufacturers who participate in Formula 1 or any other race series ( Hell even Audi because of their Le Mans prototypes). Its just the fact of whether they want to go even near that limit is the true question that should be asked here
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If Ferrari really wanted to, they can strap a 2.4L V8 producing around 900 HP (basically taken out of one of their formula 1 cars but street homologated) and put it into a 430 with some extra Aero kits. But that would be the Widow maker of the century. It would also be one of the fastest road legal cars ever to be made. Ferrari has a capability that is none other, just as Mercedes and other car manufacturers who participate in Formula 1 or any other race series ( Hell even Audi because of their Le Mans prototypes). Its just the fact of whether they want to go even near that limit is the true question that should be asked here
And I would personally be first in line to buy one!
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