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///EBAY find of the day==>UGR TT Kit///

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#1 · (Edited)
So, as I was searching for twin turbo Lambo's on the interwebs, I come across a listing for a complete UGR TT kit! The auction is a no reserve listing so potentially this could be a deal if it is, in fact, a real UGR kit. I figured someone here (UGR crew) would know the skinny on it...some of the parts in the pictures posted on the ad seem a little questionable though.

I have seen Titan/Heffner kits for sale, but NEVER a UGR kit...anyway here is the link and the item number is 140971432309:

Underground Racing UGR Twin Turbo Lamborghini Gallardo Kit 2004 2008 | eBay

 
#2 ·
Who's kit is that? It looks modified. I don't think I've ever heard of one being removed, wonder if the car got wrecked or lease was up?
 
#3 ·
This is really weird..
 
#7 ·
I noticed someone keeps posting asking about the kit on lpower but they keep deleting his post. Here is what was deleted:
Jblackwell has just posted a reply to a topic that you have subscribed to titled "How much to pay for a TWIN TURBO GALLARDO?".
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QUOTE (Canadian_Lamboman @ May 8 2013, 11:35 AM) I was surfing pre built cars on eBay and found this. There is no reserve. Is this a good kit?
Underground Racing UGR Twin Turbo Lamborghini Gallardo Kit 2004 2008 | eBay (Underground Racing UGR Twin Turbo Lamborghini Gallardo Kit 2004 2008 | eBay)
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WOW, what a terrible looking kit. Are the pumps really held on by a screw tight clamp? I don't know who made the kit but I do know there are better options than this.
PM me if you would like pics of a higher quality kit.
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QUOTE (Canadian_Lamboman @ May 8 2013, 10:35 AM) I was surfing pre built cars on eBay and found this. There is no reserve. Is this a good kit?
Underground Racing UGR Twin Turbo Lamborghini Gallardo Kit 2004 2008 | eBay (Underground Racing UGR Twin Turbo Lamborghini Gallardo Kit 2004 2008 | eBay)
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So I ask a question about this kit and it gets deleted, what's trying to be hidden?
Are the "billet hangers" held together by screw claps?
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Is there something wrong with the kit on ebay?
 
#13 ·
I looked at it, the whole manifold core things seems fishy too. He wants yours mailed back before he send the right one or give him 8500 bucks.
 
#14 ·
Core charges are pretty standard. Have you ever bought from the seller? Their reputation is 100% on eBay. I don't think it's UGR's account though but they seem reputable. If you're interested I'd give them a call. I'd rather have a new kit than this one.
 
#15 ·
I'm saying he should go ahead and include that manifold in the auction (price it in) since it's modified. No one wants to get the kit, do tear down their engine, mail their stock one and then wait for the correct one to arrive.
 
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I'm saying he should go ahead and include that manifold in the auction (price it in) since it's modified. No one wants to get the kit, do tear down their engine, mail their stock one and then wait for the correct one to arrive.
He's giving you the option to do that basically, but if you'd rather not send the $8500 he also gives you the option to send yours in first and save the money.
 
#16 ·
Core exchange on most large items is common...since it is a no reserve he can't really include anything. That would be my guess as to why he is doing it. Has anyone contacted the seller?
 
#19 ·
After pricing out the parts individually...that kit is WAYYYYY overpriced from UGR! UGR verified on other sites that it was a actually one of their kits. If you price out the parts it's by no means worth what they charge for it especially with the zip ties and ridiculous excuse for things like the "billet fuel hangers". I would be thoroughly ashamed if that was my product and I will not be using UGR on my next Lambo that is for sure...I know they are a big name, but get real, don't zip tie a fuel pump to a stick of aluminum and call it a billet fuel hanger. That is the worst quality I have seen out of all of the TT Lambo kits on the market...

There is literally no excuse for the crap used in the kit...sorry for the rant, but I have been biting my tongue in hopes that it wasn't really their kit. Flame away if you must, but there is no denying it. Crap parts for the $$$$$!
 
#20 · (Edited)
UGR has a very large following--almost cult-like, on some forums. UGR definitely turns out cars that perform well; however, a lot of the individuals that will 'flame' you, for your negative comment(s), will be people who have never had any experience with UGR kits, whatsoever. That routine goes with any product(s), really. Sure, everyone enjoys the 8-second runs and TX2K/TI footage (there's no denying UGR's performance) and I have absolutely nothing against UGR, but I will agree that no prospective buyer wants to see 'cheap' parts and cut corners, from any company, especially when spending $50,000+.
 
#21 ·
I had my car serviced at Engineered Automotive in Toronto, a very serious race shop. A customer there had a Stage 3 done on his orange 08 SL and they went through the whole kit piece by piece to see if it was worth the money. At the end they said that it was the most well done kit they have ever seen. That told me a lot, enough to trust UGR with my Gallardo Spyder and a Stage III. I have not received the car yet so I cannot speak personally, but I have never heard a person complain about their kits being poorly done...
 
#22 ·
A majority of the parts, excluding internals, are off-the-shelf parts; nothing expensive, really. From the fuel pumps to the injectors, average parts are used. I understand "average" is a bit vague--a lot of 'modified stock..." parts, as well. UGR is a reputable company, that can surely provide reasoning for all of their decisions, but I just can't personally see the justification behind some of the kits' parts, other than for the conservation of costs. As I said before, I have absolutely nothing against UGR and none of my current vehicles are faster than what comes out of UGR's shop; nonetheless, the quality buyer in me sees no reason for Siemens injectors over Injector Dynamics, or the essential piggy back'd ECU, that simply dumps more fuel. Individuals are bound to disagree, as well as UGR for the purpose of standing behind their product, but the refinement is just missing for me in their product.
 
#23 ·
I completely agree. I have nothing against UGR and I won't deny that the cars they produce are fast! I am in the market for a TTG and was really astonished when I saw this kit broken down piece by piece. I don't think that every part has to be a million dollars if it functions, but it does not justify their price. I also own several different businesses and know that profit is great, but geez their margins must be 500%! I can go get a TT kit put on a mustang for under $15,000.00 and the parts will be very similar to what they are using.

Like I said before if it is working than so be it, but why the huge price tag for VERY average to even below average parts??? I have seen used Heffner, Titan, and Dallas Performance kits and none of them had parts like this. Well, this thread was not meant to be a bashing thread, but from being a huge UGR fan I am really let down. Hopefully someone will give some sort of reasoning behind all of the cut corners.
 
#40 · (Edited)
I can go get a TT kit put on a mustang for under $15,000.00 and the parts will be very similar to what they are using.
I just want to point something out. The more expensive the car, the more expensive the aftermarket kits are. The parts could be identical for the most part, you can get a TT kit installed on a lot of regular sports cars for $15-20k. When you step up price of the car, so is the kit. Why? Because that's just how the game works. When you toss in a name brand, it just makes everything a little more expensive. You pay for the brand, the bragging rights and exclusivity.

Chances are, if you do the leg work, source the finest parts, have a custom set of Inconel headers fab'd, ceramic coat the headers and plumbing, etc., you'll end up around the same price with a far better kit. You don't pay overhead either and you aren't charging yourself for the labor to research everything. It's almost always cheaper if you do it yourself and be better in quality. You need to know what the hell you're doing though.

IMO, name brand kits are over rated. If the company makes something that's novel and very useful, see if you can buy it separately. I'd rather do my own leg work and try to do as much wrench time as possible, but I'm also an engineer. I don't exactly trust other people's solutions to something easily and if we are talking about my passion, forget it. I'll risk being wrong to find my own solution to something for an automobile.
 
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#25 ·
No I don't have anything against UGR personally...I was debating on going with them for my next Lambo build. I am also not trying to offend anyone with my posts, but the truth hurts sometimes. I am going to spend $100,000+ on my build and expect the quality to be on par with the price. Is there a problem with that expectation?
 
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#26 · (Edited)
Who cares if there are zip ties as long as the kit performs flawlessly? Keep in mind that you're paying for the research and development more so than the actual parts you're receiving. If someone could offer a high-quality twin turbo kit (comparable to UGRs kit) for significantly cheaper, and steal business away from Heffner and UGR while remaining profitable, I'm sure they would have done so already.
 
#27 ·
Who cares if there are zip ties as long as the kit performs flawlessly? Keep in mind that you're paying for the research and development more so than the actual parts you're receiving. If someone could produce a high-quality twin turbo kit (comparable to UGRs kit) for cheaper, and steal business away from Heffner and UGR while remaining profitable, I'm sure they would have done so already.
Someone has done it...
 
#29 ·
No idea where this kit is from exactly, but UGR has commented on other Lambo forums about it. I knew I would catch some grief here from the die hard UGR guys, but oh well I am a realist. I don't have to be a fanboy to feel cool. The comment about, who cares on quality if it works, makes zero sense when you factor in the price. As my wife put it...a purse from Wal-Mart works just fine, but the price differs greatly from a Gucci for a reason. If my wife can understand the concept; some of you guys should reconsider your thought process or lack there of.
 
#31 ·
^^^LOL, well at first I thought it was a deal and then I did my research. I don't really want to hack my Lambo's to pieces when installing a TT kit. I should rename the title I guess...
 
#33 ·
I don't think some people here realize that this kit sold from UR would be $40k, which is comparable with Heffner and Titan kits. On the $100k+ builds the cost results from extensive work going into the motor and drivetrain. There are some things I don't like on the UR kit, but they've proven themselves to work time and time again.
 
#34 · (Edited)
Yes the turbo kit alone is 40k...I was meaning that my total build will be $100k+ and I don't want any part of my money spent at home depot or Autozone.

I also want to add that I am not discrediting UGR cars being fast...a few of my friends have them and they move out. I am just shocked at the parts used in the kit...profit isn't a sin, but Autozone is.