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    Stop the madness!
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    I'd like to know what these options are. Bit coin? . Where else can you invest a few dollars and get the great roi a good stock can provide?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stance View Post
    I'd like to know what these options are. Bit coin? . Where else can you invest a few dollars and get the great roi a good stock can provide?
    you can't, free cheese is only in the mouse trap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stance View Post
    I'd like to know what these options are. Bit coin? . Where else can you invest a few dollars and get the great roi a good stock can provide?
    "Great ROI" isn't an accurate statement, stocks also go down. As far as other options, everything from hard-money lending, to funding a business or expansion, to real-estate, etc. I would rather my money go to something like realestate for example where you often can make great returns, but hold a tangible asset. For example, I held stock in poseidon concepts (company with hundreds of millions of dollars of oil industry equipment) last year they fudged some numbers, and when the truth came out the stock when to $0.00 I still had shares, and the equipment still did exist, but I can't get a penny out of it. Such is the stock game. I would much rather deal in an asset like property, where I know what I have, and that can't be taken away from me by some asshole cooking the books or passing along some "tips" to his buddies

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    you can't, free cheese is only in the mouse trap
    What kind of comment is that, and who said anything about free?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stance View Post
    I'd like to know what these options are. Bit coin? . Where else can you invest a few dollars and get the great roi a good stock can provide?
    Go to any financial investment firm (I use "firm" lightly), and have them guarantee a certain return on whatever you invest. Easy solution when you don't have a lot to invest on other things, such as real estate/etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fewjative View Post
    I wouldn't say that is true. We have artificial prices because of HFT so in that sense it effects every trader not to mention I believe it makes the market unnecessarily inefficient. How much it effects people is dependent on how long they will hold a position and how often they are making trades. It is true that traders who don't hold for long are more effected then their counterparts.
    No, the opposite is true. HFT arbs out inefficiencies in the market and improves price discovery. The only people adversely affected by HFT are big institutional investors(see IEX backers such as GS, Einhorn, Loeb), but MM's have always fucked them when they want to trade size.

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    HFT can do a multitude of things, good, bad, legal, grey, so let's stop trying to put it into one category.

    Using HFT you can cheat mutual funds, but you can also get inside info and key the trade in yourself. Both are illegal, but HFT is just the new buzz word, because the layman has only heard it in a negative light in regards to the "flash crash". Let's not every bring up the amount of liquidity it brings to the market, or the fact that the majority of trade executed are derived from HFT. You can literally abuse anything, and HFT is not going to go away; It will only be regulated more.

    On a separate note every time I see a MasterWhite post I want to cringe. Whether it's linking uninformed garbage, or calling DC out and getting your ass handed to you; I can't think of one time I've read something you have posted and felt better afterwards for doing so. I normally don't call people out on forum boards, because it makes you look about as cool as a wallet chain, but in your case I think it needed to be said.

    TL;DR: Anything can be abused, MasterWhite up your post quality for god's sake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueChipBulls View Post
    HFT can do a multitude of things, good, bad, legal, grey, so let's stop trying to put it into one category.

    Using HFT you can cheat mutual funds, but you can also get inside info and key the trade in yourself. Both are illegal, but HFT is just the new buzz word, because the layman has only heard it in a negative light in regards to the "flash crash". Let's not every bring up the amount of liquidity it brings to the market, or the fact that the majority of trade executed are derived from HFT. You can literally abuse anything, and HFT is not going to go away; It will only be regulated more.

    On a separate note every time I see a MasterWhite post I want to cringe. Whether it's linking uninformed garbage, or calling DC out and getting your ass handed to you; I can't think of one time I've read something you have posted and felt better afterwards for doing so. I normally don't call people out on forum boards, because it makes you look about as cool as a wallet chain, but in your case I think it needed to be said.

    TL;DR: Anything can be abused, MasterWhite up your post quality for god's sake.
    Very interesting that you feel this way. I am sorry that what i post does not make you feel better after reading it, but nor was my intention. Unlike DC or some others in this community i am not a motivational figure, a life coach or an "entrepreneur", but a cold hearted capitalist with no patience for dreamers. As well i assure you my "ass" has not been handed to me by DC nor others i may have disagreed with. I can see how my silence can be taken for a loss and/or defeat in a disagreement when in reality i just said everything i wanted to and moved on.

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