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    Both are brilliant. Both are scary fast in a very good way.

    BOTH need to be available to me on the regular.

    I'd still daily a Pagani Huayra over either though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plackslayer View Post
    Both are brilliant. Both are scary fast in a very good way.

    BOTH need to be available to me on the regular.

    I'd still daily a Pagani Huayra over either though...
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    I'd still take the 'regular' Veyron over the Ksegg anyday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus View Post
    I'd still take the 'regular' Veyron over the Ksegg anyday.
    Most people would, a much easier car to live with.
    For me it's a Koenigsegg, i don't have any experience in driving any of them, but the K'egg seems to be a whole lot more exiting than a Veyron.
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    did not expect it to be that big of a difference
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    Manufacturer claims: in kph

    Veyron: 0-100 2.5 sec, 0-200 7.3 sec, 0-300 16.7 sec.
    Agera S; 0-100 2.9 sec, 0-200 7.9 sec, 0-300 ? (<16 sec)

    However, they say the Agera S will do 0-300-0 in 22.7, and the Agera R does 300-0 in 6.66 sec wich should be identical to the Agera S. However the 6.66 was set by a car with the old brakes aswell as the regular Agera wheels, not the Aircore wheels wich means that the 0-300 time in the Agera S should be lower than 6.66 sec. So i think its safe to say that the Agera S does 0-300 in <16 sec

    I know that the stats of the Veyron has never been reproduced, but the fact is that the Agera S shouldn't pull like this on the Veyron.. It should win, but not absolutley destroy it.
    What do we know?

    We know that the Agera S was driven by the factory testdriver wich means he, most likely, knows how to drive the Agera better than any person on earth as he does that for a living. The stats claimed by Koenigsegg is set by him on that specific track. The Veyron claims was set at Ehra Lessien wich is a far superior test track, so the Veyron shouldn't perform as good at the runway in the video.
    We also know that the Veyron driver is a private owner, we don't know about his driving skills but it seems to me that he is flooring it. He happends to have a Veyron SS aswell so im pretty sure he knows how to drive them.

    But what bothers me is that we see the Veyron get a headstart in each race, and in each race the Agera S chase it down like it was a Prius, it shouldnt do that to a 1001 bhp car. Now i don't think that Koenigsegg has done any modifications to the car in preparation for the race as this is a customers car that they were able to borrow. I tried to listen to the engine/gearbox and it they seem to run absolutley perfect, no quirks or bad sounds that could appear from a power upgrade for instance.
    I know they often use V-boxes in their races, a shame they didn't in this race as it would clear things up.


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    The Agera S is 500 kilos lighter than the Veyron and has more power, of course its going to pull hard on the Veyron.

    The test track issue should only give the Veyron an advantage, if the track isn't as smooth or whatever the AWD system will help a lot more that Koenigsegg's RWD.

    As per the drivers, it seemed like Koenigsegg's test driver didn't do too much either than floor it, just listen to the engine notes. Also, we see the Veyron was set in Top Speed mode, which means it was producing full boost and was a little more aerodynamic. Plus the driver of the Veyron had traction control on, whereas the Koenigsegg didn't.

    The Veyron's number haven't been reproduced, probably because they're claims are a bit exaggerated. Honestly the more I think about this race, the more it seems clear how the Agera S should have destroyed the Veyron.

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    It's obvious that Bugatti polishes their numbers more than Koenigsegg does. From SportAuto plus Koenigsegg.

    Koenigsegg CCX (SportAuto):

    0-300 kmh = 21,9 s
    300-0 km/h = 7,3 s
    0-300-0 kmh = 29,2 s (same as Koenigsegg's claim)

    Bugatti Veyron 16:4 (SportAuto):

    0-300 kmh = 20,7 s
    300-0 kmh = 7,1 s
    0-300-0 kmh = 27,8 s

    Koenigsegg Agera S (claimed):

    0-300 kmh = 16,04
    300-0 kmh = 6,66
    0-300-0 kmh = 22,7

    Koenigsegg Agera R (confirmed):

    0-300 kmh = 14,53 s
    300-0 kmh = 6,66 s
    0-300-0 kmh = 21,19 s (world record)



    900 hp CCXF with 6-speed manual keeping up with the Veyron. Ran on regular fuel according to the driver so makes closer to 806 hp but Dragtimes decided to go ahead and publish it without the hp figure in the Veyron race leading people to believe it was more powerful than it actually was. Then to add to the confusion they later published it with 1024 hp and 1098 hp as a CCXR which produced nearly identical trap times as the CCXF somehow, indicating it too ran on regular pump gas.


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    The Agera R did 0 - 100 kph in 3,7 sec during the Guinness runs.. If they knew they could eliminate 0,8 sec on that run i bet you they would have..
    Still from a rolling start it was clear that the Veyron wouldnt stand a chance, more hp and less weight for the Agera. As the 0 - 100 kph times are miles apart ( claimed 2,4 sec for the Veyron ) still, its obvious that Koenigsegg still has alot to work on with its "launch control" and power delivery. ( i know its 2 resp 4 Wheel drive but still.. )

    What impresses me the most is how Koenigsegg has developed the car since the CCX and CCXR. They are miles apart in acceleration and handling even though the "skin" is almost identical. And this is the best way to mesure its r&d, to the previous model. Comparing with a Veyron, Huayra, LaFerrari or P1 is like comparing apples with pears..

    Comparing with other brands are much more fun though for us car enthusiast who likes debating like most friends are debating "Chealsea, Man U or Arsenal".. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeystockholm View Post
    As the 0 - 100 kph times are miles apart ( claimed 2,4 sec for the Veyron )
    Claimed 2,4 and tested 3,1 by SportAuto...

    3,7 is not bad at all for a RWD, on the contrary. It's identical to what SportAuto did with the 4WD 1000 hp 9ff BT1000.

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