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12-07-2009, 08:19 PM #11
That's 90-98% true as mentioned above.
But there are certain wines, champagnes and ports where it's almost criminal to drink them with little to no time in the cellar. It's akin to a nice cut of short rib. You could just flash grill them and end up with what some people would consider an acceptable bit of beef. Or you could marinate it and slow braise them for many hours, and what you'll end up with is exponentially tastier and more memorable then if you'd just threw them into a frying pan or on the grill until they were medium rare.When I'm not here, I'm slinging IT infrastructure or gone golfing
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12-07-2009, 08:22 PM #12
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12-09-2009, 04:18 AM #13
That's absolute nonsense!
I keep a wine cellar largely because there are many wines that really are not meant to be drunk without many years of "saving". In particular, I have ports in the cellar that are over 20 years old, and I continue to buy new ones that will also not be ready to open for another 20 years. If I don't drink them my children will, and they will certainly raise a toast to my name for inheriting them! Trust me on this, there's nothing quite like sitting around with a bunch of good friends after a good meal and cracking open a vintage port thats reached maturity.
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12-09-2009, 01:14 PM #14
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Not always the case I have aged and drank many a bottle of great FRENCH & ITALIAN wines but I just don't believe in collecting anything of that nature anymore (did it with Cigars as well).
Wine without the snobbery and BS of other people opinions is a very subjective matter. I opened my last 2 1990 TIG's last xmas and they were Balsamic LOL...that wine doesn't have the body for 20 years of hold. Even all the FRENCH I have drank from the 5 big boys I have noticed alot of variations and alot of differences in the wine I have aged in good conditions. So anything that is drinkable today I drink holding onto some "COVETED" bottle is truly the utter nonsense of life. I love drinking young wines and even young FRENCH stuff. I don't have any older stuff left but if I want it I go somewhere they have it I pay for it and I drink it, I then go home not having to worry if I opened "the bottle". This is like having 8 supercars and driving a POS daily as you don't want to put any miles on them. People need to grow the fvck up get a sack and enjoy life. (not directed at you a general comment)
I have a friend who never wore his 5070 PP until one day he almost died he came home and opened it with his kids and wore it all the time after. Lesson learned.
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12-09-2009, 04:17 PM #15
As far as I'm concerned there are two real points I'd like to make:
1) Not all wine is made to be drunk young! If you don't drink these kind of wines that's fine, but they are some of us who do like them and treat them properly;
2) Tomorrow will always come, with or without you. If you're not planning to make every tomorrow more enjoyable for the world in general (not just yourself), then why bother doing anything? You might as well grab a hooker, a lb of blow and jump naked out of an airplane, without a parachute, while living your last moment to the max...Loves wine, women and song
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12-09-2009, 04:49 PM #16
Uhhh hate to throw a kink in your bubble but..... 3 Years and 3 days from now the world will end :|, some dude with a book in the 1400's said so, and a few ancient Mayans made a calender that ends that day. Its gotta be true.
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12-09-2009, 05:16 PM #17
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12-09-2009, 05:55 PM #18
I agree with point #1 wholeheartedly. Hard6 brings up a point that if he wants to drink something with bottle age, he'll go to the store to buy it with the intention of consuming it immediately. While he's fine with paying the markup the retailer imposes for stocking and storing the vino, my preference (and Bacchus's) is to get multiple bottles upon release for that same amount of money Hard6 is going to pay for a single bottle years later, and cellar it ourselves to enjoy at our leisure as the wine continues to evolve.
As for point #2, a slightly less extreme example is why bother to save anything? If we're supposed to enjoy the present to the fullest b/c the future may never happen, then why bother with savings accounts, monetary investments, rainy day funds, etc.? Your monetary outflow should equal your inflow at any given moment. Maintaining any sort of balance in your checking account, or keeping cash on hand beyond what is needed to take care of your immediate needs, is simply lost opportunity cost for "living in the now".When I'm not here, I'm slinging IT infrastructure or gone golfing
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03-05-2010, 12:48 AM #19
once when my parents were away on vacation my best friend and I made dinner and decided to crack open a bottle. We went into my dads wine cellar and grabbed the oldest or one of the oldest ones there, a 1972 Chateau Latour. We dropped 3 bottles that night and later realizes that each one cost about 2.5k....well it was nice but def not worth a new set of brembos...
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03-05-2010, 01:25 AM #20
An uncle of mine has a cellar. One day he had a few family members over and another uncle asked if he could go down to the cellar to grab a bottle. First uncle says "Sure, but grab a bottle from the left side, NOT the right".. "OK" says the first uncle.. A few minutes later he comes back out with a bottle and his shirt all purple. He had grabbed a bottle from the right side, opened it and spilled half of it on his shirt. "Didn't I tell you to grab a bottle from the left side". "Oh yeah, says the second uncle".. I forgot. By the way.. you owe me a new shirt."
Not only did he spill a really expensive bottle but up to this day he still asks for his shirt LOL.



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