Thread: New Chotovelli and Need Help Deciding on 213 or 288 PAM

Now the question is which to get. The wife and I looked at them yesterday when we were shopping. I know September 1st prices go up 7%, so there is an immediate investment. But what do you guys in the know, well know? Suggestion, pros, cons are all appreciated.


The new Chotovelli TS7000 w/ 47mm face

wrist shots?

I want one of these soo bad but still think 47 will be way to large for my wrist!

213 is overpriced for what it is and can be had used in the 9's, 212 is the non rattrepante version (same exact watch minus a pusher, minus a hand, and minus rattrepante function (2 timers) and can be had in low 8's

i love radiomirs but not a fan of the 288.. a radiomir should not be a chrono or rattre at all to me..

price increase doesnt matter anyways, used market always takes 1-2 months to follow the msrp increase... new market it matters but the 213 bought new is like giving a hobo $4,500 without the write off...

i bought a brand new 212 for a little over half the msrp of the 213... and its a sick nasty watch, getting PVD coated right now.. i barely ever use a chrono so a rattre is way overkill

Personally if it was me between the two I would go with the 213. The 1950 label has some "umph" behind it already. That said however, neither is a classic PAM in the true sense. Chrono's are nice, but they just aren't "PAM". If you want a piece that will appreciate with time, I would go with one of the classic Radiomir's or PAM Base models. Pre V if you can find a nice one. Just my .02.

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I have a 212 and love it. Although I really like the 288. The 213 to me is closer to a classic Panerai. 1950 case. Exhibition back. The case looks a bit stouter.

The 288 is dressier. I like a Radiomir, but I think I would prefer it in a non-chrono.

Here are both watches at substantially less. I have purchased two watches from him, so buy with confidence.

213
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...2BSI%26otn%3D4

288
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...2BSI%26otn%3D4

My opinion on the matter...

Since I pretty much know absolutely NOTHING about pricing and resale and the watches themselves, I will give my opinion on looks alone.

Other than the 127/217, the 212 was my favorite PAM at one time. I now have a new favorite which is half the price of the others. PAM233!!

Originally Posted by Mark C

wrist shots?

I want one of these soo bad but still think 47 will be way to large for my wrist!

Added one up above on location at the Gumball today.

Originally Posted by forhamilton

I have a 212 and love it. Although I really like the 288. The 213 to me is closer to a classic Panerai. 1950 case. Exhibition back. The case looks a bit stouter.

The 288 is dressier. I like a Radiomir, but I think I would prefer it in a non-chrono.

Here are both watches at substantially less. I have purchased two watches from him, so buy with confidence.

213
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350085404328&ssPageNam e=MERC_VI_RCRX_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=14025 4484901&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=active_view_item& usedrule1=CrossSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_pro mot_widget&_trksid=p284.m184&_trkparms=algo%3DCRX% 26its%3DS%252BI%252BSS%26itu%3DISS%252BUCI%252BSI% 26otn%3D4

288
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...2BSI%26otn%3D4

Thanks Chris, I checked the site out that is Gil I believe and I have heard nothing but good things about him.

Originally Posted by Justin:NorCal

Added one up above on location at the Gumball today.

Nice, looks like you have rather small wrists and that is a good size!

Now I just have to decide which one I want!!! There are 2-3 that I really like, but I think I am going to stick with a basic black/white dial instead of throwing red in the mix. Need something more universal that will work with everything.

the Chotovelli is a great lookin' watch for the price! Love the fact that it has a 47mm case... gotta love the larger case!

i was also lookin' around and saw Chotovelli's with up to like 53mm cases! insanity.