Thread: New Chotovelli and Need Help Deciding on 213 or 288 PAM

What is the price on the Chotovelli? It looks great no your wrist.

Originally Posted by Jimbo

What is the price on the Chotovelli? It looks great no your wrist.

$445 Picked it up hoping the wife would like the whole bigger face watch deal. She did, and now she thinks a PAM would be an ok investment.

I dig it, where can I pick one up?

you mean half the price of a 217 right?? bc the 233 is not half the price of a 212, i wish lol

Originally Posted by Mark C

My opinion on the matter...

Since I pretty much know absolutely NOTHING about pricing and resale and the watches themselves, I will give my opinion on looks alone.

Other than the 127/217, the 212 was my favorite PAM at one time. I now have a new favorite which is half the price of the others. PAM233!!

i have big wrists so when i try on a Rad it just looks weird on me, i have the 253 which is the same as the 212 except a special edition and i love it, i had a 171 prior but i like the 1950 case style better

if you can't make up your mind just get a Rad 183 black seal and a Luminor base

Originally Posted by Justin:NorCal

Thanks Chris, I checked the site out that is Gil I believe and I have heard nothing but good things about him.

just overpriced as hell, putting 5-10mins of effort into it you can find a reputable guy who will sell you one much much less... thousands of dollars saved for 10 minutes of your time...

Come on Riley. If you have a better guy, why don't you just tell us the contact. I know you don't like Gil, but it is nice to buy from someone that you know. Otherwise, you are just giving your money to anyone and hoping for the best.

Originally Posted by rijowysock

213 is overpriced for what it is and can be had used in the 9's, 212 is the non rattrepante version (same exact watch minus a pusher, minus a hand, and minus rattrepante function (2 timers) and can be had in low 8's

i love radiomirs but not a fan of the 288.. a radiomir should not be a chrono or rattre at all to me..

price increase doesnt matter anyways, used market always takes 1-2 months to follow the msrp increase... new market it matters but the 213 bought new is like giving a hobo $4,500 without the write off...

i bought a brand new 212 for a little over half the msrp of the 213... and its a sick nasty watch, getting PVD coated right now.. i barely ever use a chrono so a rattre is way overkill

Take Riley's advice buy a 212, I owned a 213 when it first was introduced and the chrono much less the split second is a waste. 288 is a bad buy, the only way in a RAD is a 232 or 249.

233 is great also they had on at Tourneau bal Habrour yesterday very sweet.

Thank you for all the input everyone. My intention was not to create a post of judgement on anyone. That being said I will probably stick with a basic Panerai and start hunting (I would prefer a private purchase anyway). The journey in life is usually more rewarding than the end result itself.

Originally Posted by Justin:NorCal

The journey in life is usually more rewarding than the end result itself.

its funny you say that, because i get more pleasure from hunting for a watch than getting it.. i searched for my ulysse freak in rose for 3 years and i finally got it and i was like w/e and hated it.. but those 3 years were fun...

goodluck on the hunt.. i should have my 212 back soon.. PVD coated.. ill take some pics.. im debating dumping it when it comes back and getting a 183 to PVD which would be identical to a 292 but without the pig... all these damn 292 threads and making me want one.. but im not dropping 18k on a 292.