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    You should take yours in to have the front locking diff function checked at the dealership. No doubt they'll charge you, but they'll giggle as you drive away. You don't have a locking front diff and the current NAS imports are not equipped with them even with the HD package.

    The control arms fit? OK then, that means they are the exact same cars. A Pinto suspension arm fits a lot of Mustangs, so they are the exact same car too. The LR4 adapted the complete RRS front suspension to include suspension geometry, hubs and carriers. The front suspension of the LR3 was problematic. If you can't feel the difference between the way an LR3 handles and an LR4, you should get a Tahoe.
    Sharing assembly lines doesn't make them the 'same car.' Go look under them, they are not the exact same. Look at the RRS/SC and compare to the LR4, not even close. Just because they share a shock doesn't make the vehicles the exact same overall. I just think you oversimplify by making such a blanket statement.

    If you think welding a sheetmetal box that somewhat resembles a frame to a unibody makes it different somehow, that's fine. If magazines want to regurgitate the terminology they get from LR, that's fine too. Most people consider a separate bolt-on frame as a 'truck frame' but I suppose it's splitting hairs at that point. The rigidity of the LR setup really is amazing. Cross-axle an H2 and you can't even close the doors, but the LR doesn't seem to care. Whatever you want to call it, it does work well.

    You imply that you have control over the engine torque and whether the diffs lock or not, but aside from the suggestions you provide via terrain response there is no control. The variable lockers show as 'engaged' when over about 70% locked, but they rarely fully lock for more than fractions of a second. Again, it works. The terrain response, once learned in how the different functions modify the paramaters, can be used to alter the performance. Using the rock crawl mode, for instance, works very well on ice compared to the 'grass/gravel/snow' setting. "You" can't change the shift points directly, although by using the available settings can alter them although in the end, the TR system sets them using the available feedback from the ETC system.

    Not trying to argue every point, but I think oversimplifying it is misleading.

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    Ok.......
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    Technically I read the transfer case is identical on a Freelander and RRSCVTS. The Leaf-air spring is at a higher PSI on the LR MK XIV dash niner. Somali pirates have even fitted factory Defender tops to vehicles with machine guns and shot transmission fluid at the eyes of small rodents. Land Rover tie rods can be found surgically implanted into Russian nuclear submarines and this is why the Defender is not allowed into the United States.

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    they have to use the implanted tie rods, because it keeps the speed down to 87 mph, that way the flux capacitor never kicks in, the flux capacitors are actually owned by Tom Cruise (who bought the rights just last year from Janis Joplin, but that's another story) and if they are used then the Russians would have to pay him royalties which they can not afford.
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