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10-02-2008, 07:45 PM #11
something about the F430 gets me whenever I look at it. But then again the G and Murci get me too.
10-02-2008, 07:45 PM #12
MTK already had a Murci.
My vote would be for a Ferrari first...and a Lambo second. A ferrari has a much greater heritage with racing and speed.
"Ferrari claims that its F430 makes 616 pounds of downforce at 186 mph(10 MPH short of it's top speed 196mph). While at top speed (202) the Lambo 560 makes 53 pounds of lift at the front axle and 115 pounds of lift at the rear." Lambo says, "Screw it - we're painting this thing lime green, and it's gonna look hot and go 200 miles per hour, and girls are gonna give you their phone numbers. Downforce schmownforce."
Says it all.-Patrick
10-02-2008, 07:56 PM #13
Well, the history of the two are well entrenched. It's like Coke and Pepsi.. paper and plastic, taste great, less filling.... Giants and Dodgers... I think it must be some Yin and Yang... you know, "balance".
After all, isn't it Lamborghini that got pissed off at Enzo so he made his own cars?
German cars (at the lower levels) isn't all that different as you pointed out. I think in the car industry, comparisons stem from history. Look at how lonely Ford was for years with no Camaro to challenge them. Suddently, a Charger! Now the Camaro. The fight is on ... again. Just like the old days.
If you really want to get to the root of the issue, it's always been the media spin. Creating something from perhaps nothing. The Mustang reviews were getting a bit old without the "pony car wars". Now things are normal again. What if VW decided no more GTI? R&T always do comparison because they know the audience will believe anything that's "on paper". It's why some people will be Eagles fans to the death. Not everyone see's life as "why can't we all just get along". I guess if we all did, life would be boring. Maybe that's the real answer.
But from an unbiased view, yeah, I like them both regardless of who's faster (it's why I love going to SR every Saturday) Sort of like the ongoing mire of "The Ring" between Porsche and Nissan, and throw in the Corvette for good measure. Looks like "The Ring" has become an overnight success in terms of marketing super cars. Even Cadillac and just recently, VW has "Ring" fever. Never mind the fact Nuerburing has been around for over half a century. But that's getting off topic.2005 Factory Five MkIII Roadster
2008 Audi A5
10-02-2008, 07:57 PM #14
You have to appreciate the history of Ferriari no doubt. The wonderful stories this company holds in its history files just amaze me! I do feel that both definitely hold their own qualities. Somethings I enjoy in the Ferraris I might not in a Lambo. When we were hitting those curves in the Valley of Fire you could feel every part of the road in the Stradale. I can't tell you how much I enjoyed that. You don't get that in a Lambo.
MTK, Gallardos are definitely note made for tall guys LOL!!! The Hoffmeister looked a bit funny sticking out of that Pearl Yellow G. The Murcis have quite a bit more room in them. I know a few owners that are 6 Plus that drive them easily and with comfort
10-02-2008, 08:47 PM #15
Ferrari any day!Scud
10-02-2008, 08:55 PM #16
I am not brand loyal to any manufacturer, but I do have my biases based on years of experience as a tech in motorsports. I also don't like the entire line up of either manufacturer. On top of that, the models I do like from any manufacturer, I would modify to suit my tastes and needs. What I'm into is sports cars. Light, fast, great handling. To quantify handling: Its more than a bull*&%t skid pad number, its the ability to change direction, deccelerate and accelerate repeatedly in quick succession. Out of the current line up: F430 Coupe, Spider and 430 Scuderia. What I'm less interested in is the GT cars: 599, 612 and California - just not my cup of tea. Lamborghini, I really like the Gallaro 560, I think they are headed in the right direction with this car and when they make a Superleggera version of it, that might be the perfect Lambo. The new Estoque I like, it actually has a similar formula as an M5. Fast 4 door that handles like a sports car. The Mercielgo, I cant help but have a soft spot for it, even if it kind of goes against my technical knowledge (too big too heavy) but G damn is it frekkin cool. I also look forward to the Mercielago replacement. If Lambo can work the same improvement magic on the Merci as they did on the G, then look the &*%K out. I am Biased twoards F car and almost equally P car, but Lambo has made a major push in recent years in the technical direction I like, so now I have 3 favorites.
10-02-2008, 09:08 PM #17
I love them both. Ask yourself if you had the millions to develop a beautiful car collection, including classics and you could only have one marque in that collection lamborghini or ferrari.
Which one would you go without, would you ignore the Enzo's and 250 GTO's and F40's over the Miura's?
If i could only choose one in a collection, it would be Ferrari.
However, if i had the money to buy a NEW car today, i would choose and lp640/lp560 over a f430/599
They are different and beautiful beasts in their own fantastic right!
10-02-2008, 09:26 PM #18
The Ferrari is a lady that you would take out to wine & dine then dancing all night long...
The Lamborghini is a tramp that would have you driving it hard all night long with no questions asked...
In my opinion their comparisons end at Italian Sportscar...Lambo4Life4me!
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10-02-2008, 09:44 PM #19
I will admit I am a hardcore Lambo guy, but I do have respect and love the proper Ferraris (Enzo, scud, f50/f40,288 GT) and the old awesome sheetmetal)-but I really do not enjoy most of their fanbase since well, everyone here knows what I am getting at.
Lamborghini to me is raw emotion, and that is what automobiles should be about. When you see an Murcie, Gallardo, Diablo, Countach, Miura you know you are looking and listening to something special(As will everyone around you). With the exception of the super Ferraris, Ferrari just does not have that. Some will say Lamborghinis are not drivers cars, but imho if you want a car that drives like a race car buy a track prepped car and enjoy it properly-or go drive a SuperG or LP560.
And to those that complain about being tall and fitting into a Lambo, there are ways to get around that!
10-02-2008, 09:48 PM #20
In terms of performance, I think Lambo is one generation lag behind Ferrari. The Reventon may be comparable to the Enzo but will be behind in performance with the Enzo successor. The Superleggera is comparable to the CS but no way near the Scuds. And the LP560 is somewhat comparable to the F430 but will be beat by it's successor. And then there's the 640Lp vs 599. And the list goes on....etc.etc..
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