Thread: Any Liga Privada , Unico Serie, Drew Estate fans ?

JD is not only a great cigar maker, but a great person/friend.

Love his cigars

Originally Posted by Eric.L

How did you get your hands on the undercrown flying pig. Been trying to track some down since they came out. Super jelous. The liga privada no9 might be my favorite cigar.

When you are a true Liga Privada fan, you go to the ends of the Earth.... I had 2 boxes, but I distributed them to friends. I have 2 more boxes coming in, but they have all been spoken for.


OP: where are the Ratzillas??

I hadn't had any Ligas before Christmas of 2011. I damn near smoked two boxes while I was there. Great smoke.

I know this is a dumb question but is flying pigs any good? thinking of ordering a box

Originally Posted by ZachF88

When you are a true Liga Privada fan, you go to the ends of the Earth.... I had 2 boxes, but I distributed them to friends. I have 2 more boxes coming in, but they have all been spoken for.


OP: where are the Ratzillas??

My older brother has a lead on a box of them at the moment. I found a few boxes but they wouldn't ship them to the states.
Here is my current liga stash nothing crazy. I wish my local shops sold them.

Originally Posted by ZachF88

I'm a liga whore! I love the BOTL, FFP and UC FP! Still on the hunt for UF-13, UF-13 black, Black Rat, BBR, papas fritas.

Isn't the UF-13 the same blend as the UF-4 ? And what is a UF-13 Black, Black Rat or BBR ? Have you had any of the "A" 's that where given at certain events ? I actually drove to the next state for a DE event planning on trying to get a couple of those "A"'s little did I know that they are only given at events that JD attended. Oh well , still came home with a box of 9's, T52's and 10 Undercrowns.

Originally Posted by mrmikey32

JD is not only a great cigar maker, but a great person/friend.

Love his cigars

That is cool, I've only been into cigars for about 2.5 years now but I really love what he is doing with the cigar market. He is making some incredible cigars. It is a bummer that everyone else thinks the same as well.. it makes them so hard to find.
Have you done the Cigar Safari ? I'm trying to talk my wife into it.. I think it would be an awesome time.

Originally Posted by ZachF88

When you are a true Liga Privada fan, you go to the ends of the Earth.... I had 2 boxes, but I distributed them to friends. I have 2 more boxes coming in, but they have all been spoken for.


OP: where are the Ratzillas??

I was lucky enough to pick up two from a member on another site... again I won't smoke these until I can locate more.

The guy I know that picked up a box of UC pigs actually scored a box of #9 Pigs as well.. I have know idea where or how but I thought a person would have an easier time finding a Unicorn or Mermaid !

Liga's are great smokes.
I very randomly get boxes and they are always gone in less than 24 hours.

Im starting to think I shoulda bought more than 2 of The T52s

**Pigs are awesome. The FFP is still in production, albeit slow. The rest of the pigs are out of production, so if you can find a box, or even just a few, BUY THEM OUT! If you don't like them, give me a pm. I'll buy them from you!

**I have 1 "A" and the box. The damn cigar is nearly 10 inches long. I'm going to meet up with JD tonight, so I'll see if I can get some more.

**Here's Steve Saka, pres of Drew Estate, explanation on UF-4 & UF-13

"T52-4 was the final head to head blend that was competing internally with T52-3 to become the T52 final blend.

T52-4 was exceptional, in fact JD and I both liked it a slight bit better, but we were concerned that it tended to overpower some of the nuances in the liga and that we were sacrificing flavors for strength, so we ultimately decided that the T52-3 would be the final T52 blend.

JD for his own smoking pleasure kept having T52-4s made, but we banded them as JD4 so as to not cause confusion in the factory or with those he shared them with.

After he started handing them out, he decided that he didn't like putting his personal name on the product, so we started ringing them with MF-4 - it stood for what you think it does.

In the factory we kept tinkering with the T52-4/JD4/MF-4 blend to try to improve it (in our opinion) - goal was to keep the octane, but restore the depth of flavors... so we made a variety of minor liga tweaks and vitola changes to try and get it "perfect".

The result was the MF-13 - a robusto format. I think the MF-13 is better, not sure where JD stands on this - truth is the difference is so very minor between the two cigars I doubt most folks could even tell there was any difference unless they smoked them side by side... and maybe not even then, but we can tell... or so we tell ourselves. ;>

We started sharing both MF-4s and MF-13s at events and out of our pockets and they started to get some buzz online.

JD came to me one day with a My Father cigar and pointed out that Pepin's rings have an MF in the center of them. How both of us missed this is kinda crazy since we both smoke a lot of their cigars, but we did. So we decided to change the name to UF out of respect - we take pride in not knowingly copying others, so we rebanded all the MFs as UFs on our own accord.

UF stands for "Unico Fuerte.

So MF-4 = UF-4 and MF-13 = UF-13.

Netiher blend is really in testing per se, both are finalized blends. It just that neither is being produced for retail at this point.

We would like to release the cigar this year, but can't commit to doing so until we are confident we can get T52, Dirty Rats and L40s delivered on a regular basis to our customers as the UF-13 shares the same Stalk Cut Habano capa."

**The UF-4's were released to only to Casa de Montecristo. They sold out in a matter of minutes. I was fortunate enough to get 2 from a friend.

**The black rat is a dirty rat with a No. 9 wrapper. The big black rat, BBR, is just a larger version of it.

**The UF-13 is only handed out at events. IE not for sale. I'm still looking for some.....

**UF-13 black has a No. 9 wrapper.

**There is also a tweaked blend of the No. 9 that is made especially for Saka. I do not know much about it!

.....I think I'm a bit obsessed!

Originally Posted by ZachF88

**Pigs are awesome. The FFP is still in production, albeit slow. The rest of the pigs are out of production, so if you can find a box, or even just a few, BUY THEM OUT! If you don't like them, give me a pm. I'll buy them from you!

**I have 1 "A" and the box. The damn cigar is nearly 10 inches long. I'm going to meet up with JD tonight, so I'll see if I can get some more.

**Here's Steve Saka, pres of Drew Estate, explanation on UF-4 & UF-13

"T52-4 was the final head to head blend that was competing internally with T52-3 to become the T52 final blend.

T52-4 was exceptional, in fact JD and I both liked it a slight bit better, but we were concerned that it tended to overpower some of the nuances in the liga and that we were sacrificing flavors for strength, so we ultimately decided that the T52-3 would be the final T52 blend.

JD for his own smoking pleasure kept having T52-4s made, but we banded them as JD4 so as to not cause confusion in the factory or with those he shared them with.

After he started handing them out, he decided that he didn't like putting his personal name on the product, so we started ringing them with MF-4 - it stood for what you think it does.

In the factory we kept tinkering with the T52-4/JD4/MF-4 blend to try to improve it (in our opinion) - goal was to keep the octane, but restore the depth of flavors... so we made a variety of minor liga tweaks and vitola changes to try and get it "perfect".

The result was the MF-13 - a robusto format. I think the MF-13 is better, not sure where JD stands on this - truth is the difference is so very minor between the two cigars I doubt most folks could even tell there was any difference unless they smoked them side by side... and maybe not even then, but we can tell... or so we tell ourselves. ;>

We started sharing both MF-4s and MF-13s at events and out of our pockets and they started to get some buzz online.

JD came to me one day with a My Father cigar and pointed out that Pepin's rings have an MF in the center of them. How both of us missed this is kinda crazy since we both smoke a lot of their cigars, but we did. So we decided to change the name to UF out of respect - we take pride in not knowingly copying others, so we rebanded all the MFs as UFs on our own accord.

UF stands for "Unico Fuerte.

So MF-4 = UF-4 and MF-13 = UF-13.

Netiher blend is really in testing per se, both are finalized blends. It just that neither is being produced for retail at this point.

We would like to release the cigar this year, but can't commit to doing so until we are confident we can get T52, Dirty Rats and L40s delivered on a regular basis to our customers as the UF-13 shares the same Stalk Cut Habano capa."

**The UF-4's were released to only to Casa de Montecristo. They sold out in a matter of minutes. I was fortunate enough to get 2 from a friend.

**The black rat is a dirty rat with a No. 9 wrapper. The big black rat, BBR, is just a larger version of it.

**The UF-13 is only handed out at events. IE not for sale. I'm still looking for some.....

**UF-13 black has a No. 9 wrapper.

**There is also a tweaked blend of the No. 9 that is made especially for Saka. I do not know much about it!

.....I think I'm a bit obsessed!

Zach,
That is some GREAT info , thank you for sharing it. Now I happen to have about 15 UF-4's from Casa.. but I recently purchased some other UF-4's that I thought where part of a new release. I love them but DAMN they kick my ass everytime I smoke one so they don't get smoked too often. I'd be willing to part with some for some "A"'s