Thread: Website Design / Programming Cost

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I mean yes you can mess up coding ... but a coder always checks his code before giving it to the client. You simply test the site to make sure everything works the way you want it ... if not the coder fixes it. Coding is not that hard.

Also it is up to you to pick who does the work for you. Pick who ever you are comfortable with and trust. For me outsourcing my design work and coding has always worked out well.

Originally Posted by lalasd

I mean yes you can mess up coding ... but a coder always checks his code before giving it to the client. You simply test the site to make sure everything works the way you want it ... if not the coder fixes it. Coding is not that hard.

Also it is up to you to pick who does the work for you. Pick who ever you are comfortable with and trust. For me outsourcing my design work and coding has always worked out well.

I'm not a coder, but I've been involved in enough web development to know this is misleading. Yes, a site/functionality could work with ten different coders, but how they each go about it can be completely different. Basically how efficient each piece of functionality works(which has repercussions in different situations).

I know personally, a team I was working with threw away 45k of coding after they fired the guy who was working on my project. Why? Because his style of coding was clumsy, it just didn't flow well. In the end, they started over from scratch and the final result was great(but late).

I have another project I'd like to start on, but from my experiences with different coders, I'm gun shy choosing a partner.

Originally Posted by lalasd

I mean yes you can mess up coding ... but a coder always checks his code before giving it to the client. You simply test the site to make sure everything works the way you want it ... if not the coder fixes it. Coding is not that hard.

NOT true again.

A vast majority of freelance developers don't give a sh|t. They're trying to bill you 10 (or however many) hours and bang it out in half the time. For many freelancers, if it simply FUNCTIONS, thats good enough. They'll send it out and let you deal with the headaches on your own down the road. Please keep in mind that this is not a blanket statement for ALL freelance developers. Shitty work happens all the time though.

And I'll also add that the site/app/software simply "working" is not good enough. Accepting anything less than quality work runs you the risk fu*king yourself later down the road. Good luck making any changes, additions, or adjustments to messy code. In the likely event that you DO make any changes down the road, you're going to have to hire ANOTHER developer to go through and make sense of it all, costing more time & money. Not to mention if the developer uses outdated techniques and work-arounds. If the browsers update and get rid of deprecated tags or the like, your site is busted.

Originally Posted by lalasd

Coding is not that hard.

I suspect you don't code.

If it was easy they wouldn't charge top dollar for it. And quality devs wouldn't be approached weekly with job offers.

Originally Posted by lifeoftheparty.

I suspect you don't code.

If it was easy they wouldn't charge top dollar for it. And quality devs wouldn't be approached weekly with job offers.

I don't code anymore ... because I don't have time for it. Yes I have coded and designed websites before.

Like others say I am wrong, but it is just my view point. The way I have went about picking workers has worked out well for me.

Originally Posted by lalasd

I don't code anymore ... because I don't have time for it. Yes I have coded and designed websites before.

Like others say I am wrong, but it is just my view point. The way I have went about picking workers has worked out well for me.

I'm happy that you've found reliable guys over the years. Many people cannot say the same and have had to deal with issues. Now I do it all myself for the most part.

I also mean no disrespect in my previous posts, we just have differing opinions / viewpoints.

Originally Posted by lalasd

When it comes to coding there is only one way to do it. You really can not mess up the coding and the Indian will do it exactly the same way as a "quality worker."

I lol'ed out loud for real. Coding in terms of design and programing, you can have sloppy code, and clean, straight genius code. There is a reason why people pay 250K a year to coders.

Trust me, pay more, get the job done right.

Originally Posted by lalasd

When it comes to coding there is only one way to do it. You really can not mess up the coding and the Indian will do it exactly the same way as a "quality worker."

with this one sentence, you proved that if you actually did code before, you were *really* crappy. there are infinite ways to say "hello world" - which one to use for the application at hand is the programmer's job.

- chuck