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    Default Anybody ever heard of Visalus?

    It's a a health/nutrition company. They give you a oppurtunity to sell their products (which they referred to be a MLM type company). They have a 90 day Body by Vi challenge. It's one of those "too good to be true" things it seems. One of my friends is doing it and they're trying to get me involved. Just seeing if anyone on here has ever heard of it

    I googled "Visaslus scam" and basically came across different websites with the same exact info promoting it. I'm a bit leary though since they had a ad for Monavie on one of the pages

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    Only thing I can say about MLM is it's b/s in my opinion. I've even been patient enough to sit in on a 'free lunch seminar/intro' and people couldn't even answer all my questions (although I was asking the impossible questions).

    MLM's are pyramids. Period. I do believe you can make money in it if you get in early, but I have ZERO interest in finding out.
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    GREENWICH, Conn., Jan. 19

    GREENWICH, Conn., Jan. 19 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Blyth, Inc. (NYSE: BTH), a leading multi-channel designer and marketer of home fragrance products, home decor products and household convenience items, today announced that its Board of Directors has declared a special cash dividend of $1.00 per share on the Company's common stock, for a total dividend payment of approximately $8.9 million. The special dividend will be payable to shareholders of record as of February 2, 2010 and will be paid on February 16, 2010.

    The special dividend declared today is in addition to regular semi-annual dividends paid this fiscal year ending January 31, 2010 totaling $0.20 per share on the Company's common stock. Therefore, Blyth will declare total dividends this fiscal year of $1.20 per share, or approximately $10.7 million.

    Robert B. Goergen, Blyth's Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer, commented, "This year we took a conservative approach to our regular dividend payments in spite of our strong cash position and balance sheet. We have now reevaluated our dividend payment based on Blyth's cash flow, the retirement of approximately $25 million of 7.9% senior notes last October and general economic conditions. The Board of Directors believes dividends represent an important element in support of our goal to deliver long-term returns to our shareholders. "

    Mr. Goergen continued, "The Company has no plans at this time to change its regular semi-annual dividend rate. However, we will continue to evaluate our dividend payment based on the Company's financial position, earnings outlook and the general macroeconomic environment."

    Blyth, Inc., headquartered in Greenwich, CT, USA, is a Home Expressions company that markets an extensive array of home fragrance products, decorative accessories, seasonal decorations and household convenience items. The Company sells its products through multiple channels of distribution, including the home party plan method of direct selling and one-on-one direct selling, as well as through the wholesale and catalog/Internet channels. Blyth also markets tabletop lighting and chafing fuel for the Away From Home or foodservice trade. The Company manufactures most of its candles and chafing fuel and sources nearly all of its other products. Its products are sold direct to the consumer under the PartyLite®, Two Sisters Gourmet® by PartyLite and ViSalus Sciences® brands, to retailers in the premium and specialty retail channels under the Colonial Candle®, CBK® and Seasons of Cannon Falls® brands, to retailers in the mass retail channel under the Sterno® brand, to consumers in the catalog/Internet channel under the As We Change®, Miles Kimball®, Exposures®, Walter Drake®, The Home Marketplace®, Easy Comforts® and Boca Java® brands, and to the Foodservice industry under the Sterno®, Ambria® and HandyFuel® brands. In Europe, Blyth's products are also sold under the PartyLite brand.

    Blyth, Inc. may be found on the Internet at Blyth, Inc..

    This press release contains "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements include statements concerning plans, objectives, goals, strategies, future events or performance and underlying assumptions and other statements that are other than statements of historical facts. Actual results could differ materially due to various factors, including the slowing of the United States or European economies or retail environments, the risk that we will be unable to maintain our historic growth rate, our ability to respond appropriately to changes in product demand, the risk that we will be unable to integrate the businesses that we acquire into our existing operations, the risks (including foreign currency fluctuations, economic and political instability, transportation delays, difficulty in maintaining quality control, trade and foreign tax laws and others) associated with international sales and foreign sourced products, risks associated with our ability to recruit new independent sales consultants, our dependence on key corporate management personnel, risks associated with the sourcing of raw materials for our products, competition in terms of price and new product introductions, risks associated with our information technology systems (including, susceptibility to outages due to fire, floods, power loss, telecommunications failures, computer viruses, break-ins and similar events) and other factors described in this press release and in the Company's Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended January 31, 2009.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lifeoftheparty. View Post
    Only thing I can say about MLM is it's b/s in my opinion. I've even been patient enough to sit in on a 'free lunch seminar/intro' and people couldn't even answer all my questions (although I was asking the impossible questions).

    MLM's are pyramids. Period. I do believe you can make money in it if you get in early, but I have ZERO interest in finding out.
    This my friend is false. MLM was one of the first business' i got involved with, Amway/Quixtar to be exact. I got in when i was like 17, then dropped out, then got back in again when i was 19 and did it till i was like 20-21 and i got a lot of people in my business. I left around mid 21 to pursue other ventures because i got bored with it, BUT, i learned SO much business knowledge that i still apply on a day to day basis and i think it was a useful experience that helped me get to where i am today.

    I am no longer involved but i still renew my membership because my team keeps growing. I have a few hundred people in my "downline" because other people i got in are still growing it and i still make great money, they make money and everyone is happy.

    Some MLM's are kind of fishy i agree, but to generalize all of them because of a few is simply not fair. There is a fellow L4P member who is also involved in MLM that i am sure will chime in here is he see's this.

    Goodluck and do your research is what i recommend. Also see how strong the local team is and who is leading it, that is very important.

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    a guy from my hs has done very well with amway. i'm not saying you can't learn anything from them, but they feel fairly scammy to me too. at least they have a strong lure of easy profits when the reality is anything but. whenever your business model depends more on getting people to join you and less on adding any value then it doesn't feel so good to me.

    i know this guy has done (very) well doing it, i point out that he's in the 0.0001% of people that were able to pull that off. his standard response to that or anyone else that isn't making money hand over fist is that they are lazy or not trying hard enough etc, while i conclude that it's just not a very good business model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sickmint79 View Post
    a guy from my hs has done very well with amway. i'm not saying you can't learn anything from them, but they feel fairly scammy to me too. at least they have a strong lure of easy profits when the reality is anything but. whenever your business model depends more on getting people to join you and less on adding any value then it doesn't feel so good to me.

    i know this guy has done (very) well doing it, i point out that he's in the 0.0001% of people that were able to pull that off. his standard response to that or anyone else that isn't making money hand over fist is that they are lazy or not trying hard enough etc, while i conclude that it's just not a very good business model.
    Have you ever been apart of a MLM? They add so much value in the amounts of business knowledge and teach people a ton about sales and marketing. More so then any college experience will teach you. They add personal value to the people joining. You do not think that they just throw people in and tell them to bring friends? They have a process to go through and the new people need to learn that process and be able to do execute various different sales strategies, that most people do not know. So they teach and train them, and that education can be taken with you when you leave and applied to other aspects of life.

    Some people are not good in the actual business model, but anyone that has been through it sometimes come out as a better person. I have seen this first hand.

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    no i have not. i have considered going to one of the events that guy has just to see what actually goes on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lifeoftheparty. View Post
    Only thing I can say about MLM is it's b/s in my opinion. I've even been patient enough to sit in on a 'free lunch seminar/intro' and people couldn't even answer all my questions (although I was asking the impossible questions).

    MLM's are pyramids. Period. I do believe you can make money in it if you get in early, but I have ZERO interest in finding out.
    I find your opinion ironic considering this quote comes from your signature.

    "Opportunity is missed by most people because it comes dressed in overalls and looks like work." - Thomas Edison

    Network Marketing, MLM, Relationship Marketing, Referral Marketing, Affiliate Marketing, Party Plan Marketing or any other term you would like to use all boils down to one simple concept. Word of mouth is the most effective form of marketing on the planet! In order to save money and cut through the clutter of TV, Radio, Internet, Billboard, Magazine, Newspaper and other traditional means of advertising, direct sales companies sell directly to the consumer and give consumers and opportunity to make money by promoting the products that they know, use and love.

    Problem...most people don't know shit about marketing, advertising or sales, so most people struggle to turn a profit in their MLM business.

    I don't doubt that there are people running around over promising and under delivering when it comes to money, lifestyle, support, training, HYPE, HYPE, HYPE, BS, BS, BS. Yes that does happen.

    There are also some great companies out there that have very legitimate products, with good field leadership, solid marketing programs, quality training programs that rival fortune 500 companies, ethical management teams, and most importantly a genuine interest in helping people grow personally, make money and improve their quality of life.

    Any blanket statement about the MLM industry good or bad is IGNORANT! That's like making a blanket statement about any other race, religion, gender, age, or demographic. The best part about MLM is that we welcome everyone with open arms and give each one an opportunity to make the most of it. Do more fail then succeed? ABSOLUTELY....because most people just aren't willing to do what it takes to get what they want out of life. The same reason most don't reach the pinnacle of any profession, ie. professional athelet, doctor, lawyer, business owner, etc. But that doesn't stop millions of people from wanting to do those things. It takes time, energy and action for people to master anything, including MLM. How many amateur real-estate investors or professionals for that matter had their asses handed to them over the last few years? Does investing in real-estate work? YES...if you know what your doing.

    The MLM industry does over 110 Billion world wide and 30 Billion in the US alone. Avon is the largest at over 10 billion in annual sales. Warren Buffet called Pampered Chef the best investment he has ever made. When ask what he would do if he had to start all over Donald Trump said "Join a Network Marketing Company". Robert Kiyosaki calls Network Marketing the "Business of the 21st Centruy".

    As a financial planner, I was introduced to the Networking industry by one of my clients in 2005. I have had the good fortune of being mentored by some of the industries top leaders and money earners. Since then I have personally recruited and mentored hundreds of people, built organizations of 10’s of thousands of people and done nearly 100 million dollars in organization volume. I have been a Top Money Earner, Top Recruiter and Top Organizational Developer for multiple companies. I have built most of my networks via warm market face to face interaction and I have recently incorporated the internet and online systems into the mix to meet, network, mentor, and build relationships with new people. I love this industry and the people in it. I welcome anyone with an open mind to give it a chance.

    Only in MLM can someone start a real business with very little money and work it in their spare time. Most business require a lot of capital and a full time commitment right out of the gate. MLM gives people the chance to turn a part time business into an income that exceeds their full time J.O.B. (Jump Out of Bed or Just Over Broke) and allows them to make the transition from employee to business owner.

    I am just going to shut up because you either get it by now or you won't.
    You can make money or you can make excuses, but you can't make both! What's it going to be?

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