Thread: Oh so predictable....

DotCom - you haven't seen the movie - how can you complain if it gets voted best/worst anything?


I did see the movie. Sean Penn is phenomenal but the movie itself is lacking. It comes off preachy to me at times and the story is kinda helter skelter; but i also know my tastes don't run with the mainstream. Should it be nominated for best picture? I don't think so. Should Sean Penn be nominated for best actor? ABSOLUTELY. Should Kirk Lazarus win best actor? ABSOLUTELY!

- chuck

Originally Posted by DotCom

First... it was a Yes or No question - perhaps you missed the point...



Correction: I should have said film community worldwide, not just Hollywood.

Can you honestly disagree and say there are not certain films that are praised by critics off the subject matter alone?

I said "it wasn't my type of movie", there are many types of movies that are not my types of movies, here are just a few.

1. Dudes sucking face

2. Chick Flicks

3. Movies where the bride picks a male friend to be a part of her wedding, and he turns out to be a good guy, and they fall in love.. there's a bazillion of these, and I make my fiancee watch every single one alone.

4. Horror Movies

5. Anything tele-tubbies

6. Anime

7. Anything with Wesley Snipes


Let's stick to the films and past awards - I didn't ask you if you were crying about Prop8.




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I didn't miss the point, I answered...I need to see the film to determine if I think it would win Best Picture. The film could be horrendous and will not win best picture because it's "gay"

"Can you honestly disagree and say there are not certain films that are praised by critics off the subject matter alone?"

I don't disagree with you there because their are a lot of subjects out there but, dude, you specified YOUR Subject matter therefore emphasizing and targeting it specifically.

That's like a religious person, specifically Christians sayin'
"Oh no, homosexuality is a sin and no different than any other Sin! It's the same." Yet, it's emphasized more or so, contradicting the credibility of that phrase.

Maybe you should've just kept it general because this thread shouts out "Hollywood is using Cinema for Homosexual propaganda!" <---Which I would agree with, but to win an Oscar? I don't think it's enough and I can take a step outside & be less bias on what I think deserves an Oscar.

Originally Posted by carendt242

DotCom - you haven't seen the movie - how can you complain if it gets voted best/worst anything?

I didn't complain. I said I think it will awarded by the critics because of the political nature of the film, regardless of the film overall.

I did see the movie. Sean Penn is phenomenal but the movie itself is lacking. It comes off preachy to me at times and the story is kinda helter skelter; but i also know my tastes don't run with the mainstream. Should it be nominated for best picture? I don't think so. Should Sean Penn be nominated for best actor? ABSOLUTELY. Should Kirk Lazarus win best actor? ABSOLUTELY!

- chuck

Sean Penn is an incredible actor, and I've heard the same about the film overall.


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Originally Posted by DotCom

I didn't complain. I said I think it will awarded by the critics because of the political nature of the film, regardless of the film overall.



Sean Penn is an incredible actor, and I've heard the same about the film overall.


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-But what I don't understand is you haven't seen the film.
You're making a statement and opinion based on what "critics" are saying rather then watch the film and share your opinion on why you think the film is not very good. Then you can blame the nomination on it's political nature on behalf your experience and opinion.

If every film out there is not up to par and this is the best film out there w/ the coincidence of it's subject matter?

Where does this thread leave us?

I'm just gonna

Originally Posted by DotCom

I didn't complain. I said I think it will awarded by the critics because of the political nature of the film, regardless of the film overall.



Sean Penn is an incredible actor, and I've heard the same about the film overall.


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-But what I don't understand is you haven't seen the film.
You're making a statement and opinion based on what "critics" are saying rather then watch the film and share your opinion on why you think the film is not very good. Then you can blame the nomination on it's political nature on behalf your experience and opinion.

If every film out there is not up to par and this is the best film out there w/ the coincidence of it's subject matter?

Where does this thread leave us?

I'm just gonna it. lol

Originally Posted by DotCom

I didn't complain. I said I think it will awarded by the critics because of the political nature of the film, regardless of the film overall.



Sean Penn is an incredible actor, and I've heard the same about the film overall.


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-But what I don't understand is you haven't seen the film.
You're making a statement and opinion based on what "critics" are saying rather then watch the film and share your opinion on why you think the film is not very good. Then you can blame the nomination on it's political nature on behalf your experience and opinion.

If every film out there is not up to par and this is the best film out there w/ the coincidence of it's subject matter?

Where does this thread leave us?

I'm just gonna it

Originally Posted by SuperMaruchi

I didn't miss the point, I answered...I need to see the film to determine if I think it would win Best Picture. The film could be horrendous and will not win best picture because it's "gay"

If the script was horrendous, I don't think Sean Penn would be playing the part.

I don't disagree with you there because their are a lot of subjects out there but, dude, you specified YOUR Subject matter therefore emphasizing and targeting it specifically.

Read my first post completely. I said it would win because of the subject matter... it is a very politically charged movie, that is what I was referring to. The only reason W didn't do better, is movies almost always dive at the box office if the focus of the movie is still a sitting president.

Maybe you should've just kept it general because this thread shouts out

I kept it general... read my first post, it is general... in fact there is nothing specific.

"Hollywood is using Cinema for Homosexual propaganda!" <---Which I would agree with, but to win an Oscar? I don't think it's enough.

Finally... now that would have been a much more appropriate response to my first post. Instead you were more interested in what I liked or disliked than what the post was asking.

I can take a step outside & be less bias on what I think deserves an Oscar.

Not sure what qualifies you to be a less bias critic than anyone else, but nonetheless this has grown tiresome.

Thank you for finally answering the post.



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